Chapter 5.25-- They're Coming

posted 26th Nov 2016, 12:57 AM

Chapter 5.25-- They're Coming
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view HeSerpenty's profile

26th Nov 2016, 12:57 AM


Things to think about:

-- This is the first time Hizzy has interacted with "himself" in his dreams..
-- Hizruk sensed the Umbras coming before everyone else
-- Kilion seems really overly intimidated by these Umbras :3

Yes! the foreground Umbra is an actual character (not the standard filler :P)... but I'll give him a proper introduction when his helmet comes off. HINT: You've seen him before every time you've voted on TWC ;D


Sorry this page took so long! Thank you for reading!! <33

view Centcomm's profile

26th Nov 2016, 1:18 AM


this is someone we are going to hate isnt it .. Nicely done as always!

view HeSerpenty's profile

26th Nov 2016, 9:34 PM


LOL! Maaaybe?

Thank you Centy!! <3

view Vivocateur's profile

26th Nov 2016, 1:46 AM


Well this sure isn't in any way ominous :)

view HeSerpenty's profile

26th Nov 2016, 9:34 PM


Nooo not at ALL! Lolol! XDD

view MST3KFan's profile

26th Nov 2016, 1:59 AM


Looks like class is cancelled due to jerk Umbras coming up here.

view HeSerpenty's profile

26th Nov 2016, 9:38 PM


Haha well I don't know about these guys But i'm ALWAYS happy for class cancelled! LOL

Buut maybe a crisis isn't somethin to be uh...happy about. X"D

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26th Nov 2016, 2:38 AM


Hizruk might have sensed the Umbras coming before everyone else, but he's acting like it, and apparently by their expression in the second-to-last panel, they have noticed.

Geez, Hizzy, first rule of not letting them know is to not freak out when they come.

It's akin to seeing a cop nearby and jumping into a river--that basically tells the cop you're a crook!

view HeSerpenty's profile

27th Nov 2016, 4:20 PM


Hahaha you are right! Buuut subtley has never been a strong suit of Hizruk's LOL--- if not for people covering his tracks for him he woulda been found out a long time ago X'DD

view azureXtwilight's profile

26th Nov 2016, 3:30 AM


Plot twist: Everyone is actually coming for Killion.

view HeSerpenty's profile

27th Nov 2016, 4:20 PM


Hahaha egads!! He seemed so sweet too!

view CiciEnixa's profile

26th Nov 2016, 4:30 AM


Okay, that settles it.

Hizzy, I want my own Premonition Hizzy. Gimme gimme! XDDD

Oh boy, Kilion, I hope they don't suspect you for anything. I mean you're such a sweetheart, and... oh wait, the Council is a bunch of jerks and they hurt the innocent.

RIP Kilion

view HeSerpenty's profile

27th Nov 2016, 4:21 PM


One nightmare-driven premonition Hizzy comin' right up! Lololol

LOL omg so negative! Hahaha so you're saying...the nicer the character the least likely to survive? O dear.. RIP Kilion indeed x"DD

view PeterVonBrown's profile

26th Nov 2016, 6:27 AM


Beautifully done with the layout of the turning heads when they're entering the class. Effective AND aesthetically pleasing. :)

view HeSerpenty's profile

27th Nov 2016, 4:22 PM


Thank you so much! It was kinda of a decision I made AFTER the initial page thumbnail! I'm glad it was a good one :D

view PeterVonBrown's profile

27th Nov 2016, 5:18 PM


Oh I *love* those kind. I know just how you feel. I always see it as the characters knowing what they're doing. :)

view Matt Knab's profile

26th Nov 2016, 7:15 AM

Matt Knab

He was written up SO many times for interrupting class when he was younger! ;)

view HeSerpenty's profile

27th Nov 2016, 4:22 PM


Hahaha some people just never learn! XD

26th Nov 2016, 9:13 AM


Wow. You weren't kidding when you said it was eighteen panels. At least most of them are relatively small? I know, not particularly helpful.

That middle line of panels. WOW. Exceptionally well done - I love how you've lined up the reactions of the students to frame the entrance of the umbra. It's extraordinarily effective, and it really hammers in just how threatening these people look. Quite the contrast to the civil umbra, who, while still being law enforcement, do NOT look like they'd happily flay you alive without a care in the world. Maybe it's the faceplates, maybe it's the darker color scheme or the decidedly sharp shoulder bits, but whatever it is, the frontier umbra are officially OFF my Christmas list. Forever.

And you are not sorry. Stop lying. >.>

That said, while those middle panels are easily the most effective, I'm most interested in the last three Kilion panels. This poor kid! I can feel how terrified he is. Fantastic work on expressions.

And it's not just him! The middle reaction panels show us how ALL the kids react to the umbra. Most of them have varying reactions of 'huh-what?' and 'ugh' and 'uh...' and then there's Hizruk and Kilion, who easily have the strongest reactions, and who re on opposite sides of the spectrum here. Hizruk is FURIOUS...

And Kilion is terrified.

It's a fascinating dichotomy, it really is. Guess that's what makes them main characters, huh? XD

I would very much like to see Hizruk talking to Kilion about what many would call an overreaction here. He clearly doesn't get it - and Hizruk is not what we would call tactful. Ever. So if he doesn't get all caught up in his own crap (not that I would blame him, really, but still) that could be a very interesting conversation to witness. And perhaps a step in friendship for both of them?

You know, Hizruk talking to himself/being warned by himself here just gives me all kinds of fun story theories, but I think the most likely is that the red-eyed Hizruk is his very primal side that is focused on self-preservation. Thanks to the incredibly stupid way the Council runs things, he's not fully integrated with it, so that's how he gets things across to himself - in other words, Hizruk smells/senses/feels/whatever the umbra coming, and obviously he knows exactly what these people feel like because hello, imprisoned for ten years by these SAME GUYS, and he warns himself in what is a visually very obvious way because he has no other way to do it.

Just a thought.

Of course, there's lots of other things that could be happening here, but... hey, yourself talking to you in nightmare land is just fodder for my brain. I can't wait to find out the truth. Should be a fun ride!

(Seriously, words do not do justice for how much I feel for Kilion in this page. ;~;)

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28th Nov 2016, 1:48 AM


Haha yes.... thankfully they were mostly headshots... buuut that's a lot of hair to be fancy shading! X"DDD

Man I'm so glad to hear the middle panels were effective! It was a last minute decision but I'm glad it's there haha. Yessss also so happy that the Frontier Umbra come off as more intimidating! Mission successful :D
Hizruk and Kilion DEFINITELY have the strongest reactions and indeed quite different-- I'm so happy you caught on to this! But of course you did <333
LOL you are right... tact and Hizruk really don't go well together. I wouldn't put it past him to straight out ask Kilion the inappropriate personal questions X"DD

I love your theories! Especially the Red Eye Hizzy being the primal, self-preservation form. It's very interesting you say that hehe.Everything we've seen of him would really suggest that to be the case! Haha I can't go into too much detail..alas, that is what the comic is for hehe!

view Carvone's profile

26th Nov 2016, 11:34 AM


This page has so much going on, that I almost don't mind the cliffhanger with Gwynn and Keymen, XD.

More sneak-voice, now with an actual body! (Hey, if it's sneaksnake, then it should be sneak-voice too.) Obviously voice!Hizruk has red eyes, and he looks a LOT like our Hizruk in his red-eyed form. What would really seal the deal would be a scaled right hand, but that's hidden behind Hizruk's shoulder. So I'm stuck with pure speculation:

Voice, who/what ever they are, can't take an actual independent shape. But he CAN take one of Hizruk's shapes, as we see here. So my theory is that sneaksnake is Voice taking Hizruk's

26th Nov 2016, 11:38 AM


(comicfury's eating the second half of my comment, so i'm trying to paste it here)

taking Hizruk's SERPENT FORM and not an separate character. Why, however, sneaksnake can interact physically (killing Beliah, killing the guards) is an open question. Also, why haven't we seen Voice take on Hizruk's normal form? Did all Serpents use to have a voice, and their normal form only occurs when they're "locked away" from the voice?

Glowing eyes. Wait, does DOES KEYMEN HAVE A VOICE?? Is he constantly in in Red-eye (or rather Blue-eye) form, and therefore talking to the voice? If Hizruk went red-eyed after being in the dungeon, does that mean it happens after awful events, and that Keymen has it after his father's death/execution?

Alright, enough tinfoil hatting. I'm almost certainly waay off.

Just why is Killion terrified, beyond that being his normal state? I'm trying to remember what I know about him, and it's not much: He doesn't like the council, lives in a cave now, and used to live with a woman why was nice to him -- aunt? -- before the council "got" her somehow. Not sure how much of that is accurate, but it CERTAINLY explains why he's freaking out here! Serpenty, please be nice to him! :o

Also, I absolutely love that panel with everyone turning around! It's the same action, but HOW they do it really shows off their personalities. Hizruk, glowering; Killion, quietly terrified; and then Arith. He looks like he just realized that Umbras are not a reason to be excited. Ouch.

Ok, that was a long ramble of a comment. I hope you don't mind unsubstantiated theories!

view HeSerpenty's profile

28th Nov 2016, 2:13 AM


Haha I had hooooped this would ease the disappointment of last page LOL... with Gwynn and Keymen :'D

Oo I love all your ideas! Hahaha obviously you know me.. I can't give definite answers, but yes it is worthy to mention that Sneaky-Snake has seemed to do things separately and apart from Hizzy. :3
Oh, it's interesting you bring up voices with all serpents! When Kal had transformed back in chapter 2 his voice did change when he was in his serpent form...matching the font of sneaky snake and inner Hizzy LOL (but not the black and red ;D). Doesn't suggest they have inner voices talking to them buuut it does suggest that font represents a more "feral" speak ;D

O dear, I'm rambling XDD

Hehe about Kilion... we will find out just why he is so afraid a little later! And for the most part you are right about those facts! Just a couple lil' things off but all the answers will come heheh.

Thank you so much! Yesss all these characters are so different..and definitely react differently to these mean Umbras XD.
I NEVER mind a ramble comment! Long as you don't mind my ramble answers LOL

view Seabiscuit's profile

26th Nov 2016, 12:20 PM


Oh man, those first panels- I love that, what a jump scare for poor Hizzy :'D
...Oh dear. They can't be here for him... C-can they?D:

view HeSerpenty's profile

28th Nov 2016, 2:14 AM


Haha right? But if I'm gonna have a nightmare I wouldn't mind it warning me about coming dangers LOL

The caaaan beeeee (it's not like Hizzy doesn't actually deserve it this time LOL)

26th Nov 2016, 1:59 PM


Hulk out and kill them. Do it for the vine!

I am curious to see how he handles another heavy handed move by Council, et al. This time he knows their target...

view HeSerpenty's profile

28th Nov 2016, 2:15 AM


Haha!!! The vine XDD

Hopefully it won't be recklessly, knowing Hizruk XD. His style is so very different from theirs XD--- he's a direct approach kinda guy X)

view Alicia's profile

26th Nov 2016, 5:55 PM


Kilion looks nervous... What does he have to be so nervous about? Knowing him, he probably broke a bunch of poor humans out of the dungeon too.

Ha ha "Yeah, we're not sorry." is crackin' me up. XD


view HeSerpenty's profile

30th Nov 2016, 12:16 AM


Hahaha it's always the sweet ones that have the most to hide!


26th Nov 2016, 6:26 PM

DLKmusic (at work)

I may be way off base here, but Daggot, here's a chance for you to stand up for these kids!

Give us a reason to like you and to feel bad about all the things we've said about you!!


view HeSerpenty's profile

30th Nov 2016, 12:16 AM


LOL!! SOmehow I feel like we will never ever feel bad about the things we've said about Daggot X"DD

view Skweeee's profile

27th Nov 2016, 12:55 PM


This I like. You've packed so much story on one page. So many panels, but it doesn't even remotely feel that way.

Too bad the dream warning didn't come a little bit earlier.

view HeSerpenty's profile

30th Nov 2016, 12:18 AM


Ah that is so great to hear! There is always the concern of too much..... buut there IS much to show and to tell XDD. Thank you so much for the feedback!!

Haha and you're right! LITTLE LATE nightmare-hiz! XDD

view Outlaw's profile

27th Nov 2016, 5:10 PM


Well, at least his dark side is kind enough to act as a sixth sense of sorts to help him. Kinda like his own spider-sense, only darker and a lot more murder-y.

view HeSerpenty's profile

30th Nov 2016, 12:19 AM


Exactly! LOL... "murder-y"...that should be a legit adjective <333

I wouldn't mind having a sixth sense like that even if it's nightmare-fuel! XDD

view rufiangel's profile

27th Nov 2016, 8:00 PM


They're here to give all the kids free ice-cream 'cause they love 'em all so much, right? :'D Right?

(I'm excited to see the interaction! Hizruk-baby has a lot to overcome in regards to that inner darkness and this can only mean a step towards acknowledgment... and that's a step forward, right? :D ... although possibly also a step towards the abyss... :'D)

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30th Nov 2016, 12:30 AM


Haha that's right! Ice cream, of course-- nothin to worry about!

Yesss that boy has a lot of inner demons to face! (gosh perhaps literally considering that nightmare X"DD..and voice :P). Probably acknowledgment would be a huge step! He seems to kinda act like it's not there when he's conscious XDDD

view Proxy170's profile

29th Nov 2016, 7:34 AM


Kilion...what did you do???

So does Hizruk have some latent psychic skills or is it like a second person who can "walk" around freely?

view HeSerpenty's profile

30th Nov 2016, 12:44 AM


He's TOO nice, we all knew it! X"DD

It would certainly seem like he is the only one who sees/hears these things... but then other times it really does seem like a separate entity altogether! Guess we'll just havta wait for the answers <33 lolol

30th Nov 2016, 4:24 PM


Feral Hizruk subconscious never sleeps. It hears all. It smells all. It passes information though a custom dream avatar.

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30th Nov 2016, 4:48 PM


Haha you know.... that's pretty true actually! Hahaha if not for feral dream- Hizzy... Hizruk would still be asleep and off guard when these baddies showed up! :3

view alston123's profile

2nd Dec 2016, 7:38 AM


Ugh. No. Why the government gotta be like that? :/

Stay strong, Hizzy. :)

view HeSerpenty's profile

2nd Dec 2016, 4:44 PM


Because the government just can't help themselves! Gotta be evil XDD

Hahaha <3

view gideonland's profile

2nd Dec 2016, 3:50 PM


Heeeeey Kiiiiidsss.
I love how they don't even hide that they're here to stir up some kind of commotion.

view HeSerpenty's profile

2nd Dec 2016, 4:45 PM


Hahaha I suppose they figure there's no point in trying to hide such a thing--everyone already knows!

view LeRenardRoux's profile

3rd Dec 2016, 10:18 AM


Hmmm Kilion's reaction IS strange.

All those over-the-shoulder reactions must have been a pain to draw. XD

view HeSerpenty's profile

3rd Dec 2016, 12:49 PM


Strange indeed! What dat boy got to hide?

Haha they were in the sense they added 6 extra panels that weren't initially planned XD--- but headshots are always the easiest for me X'DDD

view Chris the Blue's profile

5th Dec 2016, 5:22 PM

Chris the Blue

How dare you interrupt this adorable man's class.

view HeSerpenty's profile

5th Dec 2016, 6:19 PM


LOL wait...wait.....did you just say Daggot is ADORABLE?????

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11th Dec 2016, 5:09 AM


If only Hiz could harness this "Inner Hiz" and it's power. He'd turn all those Umbra's in to tin cans~ One day.... one day.

view HeSerpenty's profile

13th Dec 2016, 12:54 PM


Hhaha I know right!
Funny you should mention that! X3

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